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Old Aug. 9, 2017, 09:50 PM   #1
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Old Aug. 9, 2017, 10:52 PM   #2
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Old Aug. 10, 2017, 12:03 AM   #3
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Airships, all fucking day. Ben and Phil can have fun in their dumb plane.
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Old Aug. 10, 2017, 12:30 AM   #4
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You can catch flying type Pokemon in an airship
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Old Aug. 10, 2017, 05:56 AM   #5
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heres a little logistics 101 for you folks

the most basic way to determine the effectiveness of any mode of transport is the following

amount of cargo times transportation speed divided by cost

this gives you the basic unit that is produced by the transport industry (essentially cargo-distance) and how much each of these units costs

exactly what your cargo is doesnt really matter

if you work for a mining company you transport coal

if you work for a dairy farmer you transport milk

if you work for a mail service you transport parcels

if you work for a cruise company you transport senior citizens

the aspect that most determines modern air transportations effectiveness is its speed

airplanes are extremely fast and in fact pretty much the fastest mode of travel that is commercially viable

this makes up for the fact that air transport is an extremely cost intensive industry with low return on investment for fuel costs maintenance expenses and training and the fact that most airplanes just cant really transport that much cargo

this is evidenced by the fact that industries like land and sea transport still exist and are certainly not suffering at all from competition from the aviation sector

for example land transport is not that fast and you cant take that much with you but its extremely cheap when compared to airplanes

sea freight is even slower but its a lot cheaper than air freight because owners can fit such gigantic amounts of cargo on a single ship with relative ease that kind of capacity cant be beat

would you like an example more close to home well how about this one

whens the last time any of you goons considered travelling to work by airplane instead of by car the very simple reason is because its not affordable


so what we see is that airplanes are a great mode of transport because it excels in one of those three factors

now who would fucking be so dumb as to sacrifice the only advantage air travel has (as mentioned before its speed) and build a goddamn airship which takes longer to cross the atlantic than my grandma in a pedal boat

this is the real reason airships dont exist anymore not because people got scared after the hindenburg crashed which is what most people think
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Old Aug. 10, 2017, 06:13 AM   #6
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Speed is everything

Cost is everything

When I have steak for dinner, I puree it and drink it through a straw because that's most efficient
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Old Aug. 10, 2017, 06:27 AM   #7
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Whatever one Simon is on
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Old Aug. 10, 2017, 06:35 AM   #8
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Speed is everything

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When I have steak for dinner, I puree it and drink it through a straw because that's most efficient
there are not enough people interested in pointless luxury travel to finance such an industry
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Old Aug. 11, 2017, 09:22 AM   #10
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are you kidding me

firstly resorts and casinos are not modes of transportation and you cant compare the overhead involved when operating a transport compared to operating

well

a building


secondly cruise ships are only commercially viable because they are piggybacked by the rest of the maritime infrastructure

factors such as resource distribution technological development and manufacture and legislative requirements are all part of a framework that is by no means defined or even that greatly influenced by the cruise industry

an airship on the other hand would have to be developed and built solely for the niche market that is luxury travel

legislative requirements

air traffic control necessities and specialized airports

safety features and rescue requirements specifically for airships (did you know that there is a network of satellites that exists only to provide global coverage for wireless communication between ships in case of distress? i assure you this wasnt developed for the cruise industry)

there is just so much that needs to be developed before this thing becomes even practically viable let alone commercially so

all because a bunch of hobnobs would like to sip champagne while looking at clouds

it will never happen
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Old Aug. 11, 2017, 04:05 PM   #11
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I mean my main argument in the skype chat was that blimps look stupid but poe is bringing so much more to the table here so I appreciate that
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Old Aug. 11, 2017, 05:24 PM   #12
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are you kidding me

firstly resorts and casinos are not modes of transportation and you cant compare the overhead involved when operating a transport compared to operating

well

a building


secondly cruise ships are only commercially viable because they are piggybacked by the rest of the maritime infrastructure

factors such as resource distribution technological development and manufacture and legislative requirements are all part of a framework that is by no means defined or even that greatly influenced by the cruise industry

an airship on the other hand would have to be developed and built solely for the niche market that is luxury travel

legislative requirements

air traffic control necessities and specialized airports

safety features and rescue requirements specifically for airships (did you know that there is a network of satellites that exists only to provide global coverage for wireless communication between ships in case of distress? i assure you this wasnt developed for the cruise industry)

there is just so much that needs to be developed before this thing becomes even practically viable let alone commercially so

all because a bunch of hobnobs would like to sip champagne while looking at clouds

it will never happen
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tourism

Every invention ever came about because somebody wanted some luxury they didn't have
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Old Aug. 12, 2017, 07:21 AM   #13
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ohhh right space tourism i completely forgot about that totally flourishing industry yeah my neighbours just got home from their trip to jupiter and im expecting some brochures in the mail for my hiking trip to olympus mons
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